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December   9

Menendez In

Gill out.

It's done. The insider club known as the New Jersey Democratic Party Governor-elect Jon Corzine has picked Robert Menendez to take Corzine's Senate seat. The official announcement will be today at 2 pm at Liberty State Park.

And for a while there, it looked like state senator Nia Gill of Montclair was *this* close.

December 9, 2005 in Buzz | Permalink

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I'm still waiting for a solid reason, other than geographical proximity, why the proprietors of this site apparently felt that Nia Gill was deserving of representing this state in the US Senate. Or was it simply an example of the sense of cultural and political entitlement so evident here at times, the idea that the magical kingdom of "Baristaville" should take precedence above all else?

And before the cavilers rush in, I can see a far better reason why Menendez was chosen, and it is called the Hudson County Democratic machine, so crucial in all elections but especially so when Menendez has to run against "L'il Cane" for a full term.

Posted by: cathar | Dec 9, 2005 11:05:46 AM

Cathar, we actually didn't support Gill. We supported bringing the decision to the people.

Posted by: The Barista | Dec 9, 2005 11:24:05 AM

Yeah, duh. What she said. Ever heard of democracy?

Posted by: Gig | Dec 9, 2005 12:15:23 PM

Barista, whoever truly constitutes "the people" out there (BlueWaveNJ has one view, for example, I a much divagated other), they wouldn't have chosen Nia Gill either. I doubt her name is even recognized in state Dem circles other than round this area. That was my point. As was my previously noting that she's never even been likely to be seen in the wee hunk of Passaic County she purports to represent.

Posted by: cathar | Dec 9, 2005 12:57:17 PM

Special elections are nice, but they take time and cost tax money.

Typically, I think, when there is a vacancy in a US Senate seat, the governor makes an appointment and that person holds the position until the next congressional election, when the people select a successor. For the house, there is no appointment, just a special election, leaving the seat empty until a special election can be held, normally outside of the traditional November election cycle.

In an era when a terrorist attack could take out the entire congress, Governor's should have the ability to appoint Representatives and Senators, who would sit until the next Congressional election. In the event of a catastrophic attack,, without the ability to seat a quorum, the house would not be able to authorize funds to defend the country.


Posted by: kevin Lee Allen | Dec 9, 2005 1:16:19 PM

BTW, Menendez is not a surprise. Those who voted for Gov-elect Corzine could/should have pretty much expected this result.

Frankly, Senator Corzine should resign, today and Gov. Codey should appoint Menendez so the people can have the advantage of some slightly increased seniority.

I would stand by the above statement even if the governors were of different parties. It is just the right thing to do.

Posted by: kevin Lee Allen | Dec 9, 2005 1:20:01 PM

You are wrong, Cathar.

Nia GIll is extremely well known and well respected in NJ democratic circles.

Posted by: jk | Dec 9, 2005 4:06:03 PM


It will be interesting to see what happens with the upcoming 2006 Senatorial election.

Former Governor Kean's son is the likely Republican candidate.

Will New Jersey remain a Blue State then?


Posted by: Franklin | Dec 9, 2005 5:39:16 PM


It will be interesting to see what happens with the upcoming 2006 Senatorial election.

Former Governor Kean's son is the likely Republican candidate.

Will New Jersey remain a Blue State then?


Posted by: Franklin | Dec 9, 2005 5:39:59 PM

No, jk, I am not wrong. Nia Gill is not known statewide at all. Again, many folks here have to lose this "Baristaville is the true political center(as well as of culture here) of the state" mindset, that's all. Can you even cite a story in either the Record or the Star-Ledger attesting to her labors on behalf of her constituents over, say, the last 6 month?

Posted by: cathar | Dec 9, 2005 7:30:24 PM

He's a hack. Corzine's a hack too.

And have you seen Menendez's district? What a joke. You can find a pix of it on his website http://menendez.house.gov/index.cfm?SectionID=7&ParentID=0&SectionTypeID=2&SectionTree=7

Makes no sense unless you were trying to have a majority minority (hispanic) district. What? That's what they wanted? Oh.....

(Gerrymandering) Both parties do it I know. However, it ain't democracy. But, you're right, this is the way the game is played...

Oh well, whatever nevermind.......

I'm gonna go watch Project Runway on Bravo........

Posted by: profchriss | Dec 9, 2005 8:30:51 PM

Actually, Baristaville is the center of the NJ political universe (Lautenburg, Bradley, Corzine, Menendez - all within 12 miles of here and most are closer). South Jersey politicos are ticked off that Andrews was not chosen.

Also a simple Google of Nia Gill, and you can see that she has been mentioned on CNN, Star Ledger, Morris County Daily Record, the NJ Business & Industry newsletter, the Gadsden (AL) Times, Newsday on Long Island, and in this very interesting insight from an article in the Camden Courier Post(January 19, 2004:

Sen. Nia Gill, D-Montclair, has the guts to stand up and tell it like it is: New Jersey government isn't run by elected officials but backroom power brokers. Gill said she was promised the chair of the Judiciary Committee but McGreevey and Senate President Dick Codey, D-Essex, withdrew it at the request of South Jersey Democratic Boss George E. Norcross III.

Gill went to Republicans and offered to have some members of the black caucus join them to form a majority in the Senate. The GOP was scared witless by the Democrats, which is why they will be in the minority for years to come.

...And probably why Nia wasn't named.

Posted by: cannon | Dec 9, 2005 11:02:23 PM

The Gadsden Alabama Times? A claim in January 04 that Ms. Gill was "promised" a chairmanship? I googled and read those "mentions," too. None of them made her out to be a great statesman or legislator or orator. You've thus got to do MUCH better than that. And that the likes of Bradley and Lautenberg live within 12 miles (why 12, I wondered)? What does that prove? Baristaville, based on postings here, is certainly a place where people are often puffed-up on themselves, but that does not the nexus of New Jersey politics make. I sensed a BlueWaveNJ member posting above, in other words, caught in a Republican riptide come the next Senatorial election.

Posted by: cathar | Dec 10, 2005 9:14:39 AM

Cathar, no I cannot cite stories. I don't keep a library of information to defend what I know to be true. And no, I do not believe that "baristaville" is the be all and end all of NJ. I have been involved through my job, with NJ politics. Despite your claim, Gill is well known throughout the state. I'm not defending her, I'm not acting as her champion, I am merely stating what I know to be true by having attended meetings, fundraisers, etc. End of my story.

Posted by: jk | Dec 10, 2005 9:21:13 AM

Not a BWNJ member myself, but trying to be a proud local liberal, it's gratifying to see that Baristaville IS, in fact, center of a certain universe: http://www.epodunk.com/top10/liberal/index.html

Posted by: anonymous | Dec 10, 2005 1:02:35 PM

We're 12 miles from NYC (which is why we have the 12 Miles West Theatre). I used the number because it is inclusive of Corzine's apartment on our side of the Hudson as well as Livingston/Montclair/West Orange which has spawned the recent governors and senators I mentioned. The other key political base in NJ is at the Philadelphia side of the state in the Camden-Trenton area. A third is the New Brunswick area. Just facts, not puffery.

Posted by: cannon | Dec 10, 2005 1:03:02 PM

Not to get involved in the political discussion, but just want to ask Cannon if he/she is referring to Montclair in regard to 12 Miles West theater, or Bloomfield, where 12MW now resides? Technically they are now 11 miles west of NYC! ;-)

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