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President Bush follows up his address last night with a press conference now.

December 19, 2005 in Buzz | Permalink

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Nothing to do with Bush...but...

Last night at 2am, we were woken up by a giant BOOM and a huge flash of light! It was rather scary. We looked outside and there appeared to be someone who was probably a drunk driver (and later, we heard police radios talking about such) who had driven into a light pole and it had come crashing down and the wires entangled his car. Did he give up? Noo...he tried for quite a few minutes to get his SUV out of the wires so he could drive off. So, all you heard was the loud roar of the SUV engine trying to pull away. Luckily, the police came literally about 5 minutes later - along with fire trucks, etc. Today, at noon, the crews are still outside working on putting a new pole up and the road is closed off. So, so Pine St is closed today, but you can still get into the entrance of Bay St Train Station.

Posted by: Butch | Dec 19, 2005 11:48:35 AM

I'm still fuming for last night address by Bush. Bush is still pushing the big lies that got us into this mess and his half hearted concession's in the face of overwhelming facts means nothing. If what you are doing is not correct, stop, and do something else. A strategic retreat is victory.

Iraqi war seems like a large scale version of "Hamburger Hill" - take the hill for the sake of taking the hill. This war is going to eat up American's and we are not going to get a damn thing out it except reduced influence in the world, a damaged military, a considerable body count, and a bill our children will not be able to pay.

We still to do have a discernible strategy for Iraq which means we will flounder around the middle east until we can't take it anymore. This administration lack of strategy and lacking war plan is leading us to defeat. We have no plan. Lets get out now.

Posted by: lasermike026 | Dec 19, 2005 12:26:49 PM

Let it all out Mike, it helps. :P

Posted by: stealth | Dec 19, 2005 1:07:56 PM

lasermike - your a better person then I am for even watching it. I stopped listening to the president since his post-Katrina speech called on volunteers, charities and the Boy Scouts to continue their hard work rescuing and assisting people where FEMA failed.


Posted by: hrhppg | Dec 19, 2005 1:08:05 PM

I have one thing to say to that comment...

Strategic retreat is victory in Iraq.

Posted by: lasermike026 | Dec 19, 2005 1:09:36 PM

When I think of Iraq, I think "Universal law: You break it, you bought it." While we don't own Iraq, we certainly can't slink out of the region now.

I think you can hate this war and its instigators while still understanding that leaving the region in anarchy would result in more suffering than our staying and helping the Iraqis build a stable country.

Posted by: DavidG | Dec 19, 2005 1:39:46 PM

My previous reply was to stealth.

hrhppg,
It would appear your feeling is very common. After 5 minutes of listening to what Bush had to say, I did not need to hear anymore. It was the "same ol' same" with a style change to make him seem conciliatory. I kept watching just to see the man behind the curtain. Its like watching a bad magician. You cringe every time you see a dove escape from of his sleeve.

Posted by: lasermike026 | Dec 19, 2005 1:54:12 PM

Bush is a Godawful speaker. That is all.

Posted by: Appletony | Dec 19, 2005 2:21:57 PM

Also why are we accepting his secret wire taps of American citizens? Am I the only person who wants him impeached? The Patriot Act read like the KGB's how-to manual, the written version of the draft posposal is so vague they could draft kids into the military to trim Sadams toenails.

The sad thing is you can't blame Bush for being the slime just like his father was. You can however blame Nader for splitting the liberal voters and unleashing this wanna-be dictator on us. Where is Nader anyway? - he got really quiet after taking that wad of cash from the Republican party to stay out of the 2000 recount.

Posted by: hrhppg | Dec 19, 2005 2:31:38 PM

Like it or not, intercepts of international communications are not wiretaps.

Posted by: Appletony | Dec 19, 2005 2:53:15 PM

Dave,
We created a power vacuum and we were force to fill it with our military... and it isn't a good fit. After we leave, the another power vacuum occur, and the Iraqi central government will collapse. The British created Iraq out of three warring state. When we leave, the Iraqi central government will collapse and the original three waring states will reform.

A better axiom would be, "you can't unscramble scrambled eggs."

Posted by: lasermike026 | Dec 19, 2005 2:56:36 PM

We have a system for wiretapping and intercepting communication by Americans. It exists in the within the justice department. As the FBI will tell you, "domestic (intelligence apparatus) is ours".

Posted by: lasermike026 | Dec 19, 2005 3:00:28 PM

I agree with DavidG - while we should never have gone into Iraq in the first place, and were lied to by the President to get us there, now that we've wrecked the place, we have to fix it. We can't just walk out now and leave it in chaos, worse than it ever was before when Saddam was in power. What we need is a comprehensive plan to fix it properly and enough people and materials to do so.

And I also agree with hrppg - if it weren't for the fact the whole Congress is controlled by the Republicans, Bush should have been impeached by now!

Posted by: mauigirl52 | Dec 19, 2005 3:09:32 PM

LM026,
Do u think it would aid the insurgents/terrorists if we published a drawdown schedule for getting out the troops?

Do u think the US is at war against Terrorism?

Posted by: The Iceman | Dec 19, 2005 3:26:11 PM

Ice,

I think setting a dead line doesn't have anything to do with the insurgency. It just shifts responsibility from US to Iraqi forces. I think the insurgency situation might improve under Iraqi control. The insurgency might have a harder time fighting solders that know the terrain.

The war on terrorism... its a misnomer. Terrorism is a tactic. IMHO the FBI is better suited for anti terrorism than any other institution. This is a very complicated subject and it would take months to describe the history and skill set of each intelligence agency. Right now I would give the job to the FBI and increase their cultural and electronic capabilities.

Posted by: lasermike026 | Dec 19, 2005 4:58:35 PM

Thoughtful answer Mike...I especially like the response that the terrorism is a tactic. One of the main issues is defining the enemy. To be continued.

Posted by: The Iceman | Dec 19, 2005 6:34:52 PM


"Anybody who doesn't appreciate what America has done and President Bush, let them go to hell!"

-- Iraqi voter Betty Devisha.

Posted by: The Iceman | Dec 19, 2005 9:24:40 PM

I think the statements of most Iraqi's are conflicted. Its safe to say they are not happy with Hussien and they are not happy with the American occupation.

Posted by: lasermike026 | Dec 20, 2005 11:17:33 AM

It would be great if the US could fix Iraq (having broken it), but at this point the US seems incapable of that, not because of what's going on there, but because the US people in charge don't know what the hell they're doing.

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